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GROSS: Du vet, i lesingen du gjorde, refererer karakteren til, du vet, blir forventet eller må undertrykke menneskelige følelser for å være en spion. Og han skjønner senere at George George Goose Outlet Winnipeg, Smiley, din mest berømte karakter som rekrutterte fortelleren din, undertrykte menneskeheten i ham. Ser du tilbake på din karriere i intelligens og angre på noe du gjorde?

LE CARRE: Ja, det gjør jeg. Jeg beklager, i min studentedag, som poserer som en kryptokommunist og prøver å tiltrekke seg sovjetiske rekrutterere i disse dager. Jeg var en halv halv vellykket. Jeg ble plukket opp og flørt av en russisk rekrutterer i Sovjetembassyet i London. Og det hele kom til ingenting. Kanskje, jeg var ikke klok nok, eller kanskje jeg ble kompromittert av noen andre.

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